tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30216641.post612740964770894429..comments2023-05-13T09:44:09.456-04:00Comments on Adiaphora - a prologue to things indifferent.: Church WarsChris Larimerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01770607122746467750noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30216641.post-12914789987535313452008-07-10T09:08:00.000-04:002008-07-10T09:08:00.000-04:00Rachel,Thanks for stopping by. When I say "catholi...Rachel,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by. When I say "catholic" I mean the whole church as it has existed since the days of the apostles. It's the world-wide church which we confess in the Apostles and Nicene Creed. We specifically confess THE or ONE church (it's nature being HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC). <BR/><BR/>What I mean by orthodoxy is that solid confession of faith that ties the whole church together - the basics of which are found in the Apostles Creed (recited by all Christians at their baptism) and a more full account, Christologically speaking, in the Nicene Creed. I would also suspect that most church bodies around the world would need to recognize the Trinity as found in <A HREF="http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/athanas.htm" REL="nofollow">Quicunque Vult</A> (or Athanasian Creed) to be in full communion with Christians worldwide. This type of catholic orthodoxy <A HREF="http://www.ancient-future.net/vcanon.html" REL="nofollow">St. Vincent of Lerins</A> spoke about when he said that the Church Catholic holds to "quod ubique, quod semper, quod ab omnibus creditum est." It's what the Reformers meant when they spoke of the <A HREF="http://www.ccel.org/s/schaff/encyc/encyc09/htm/iv.vii.cxix.htm" REL="nofollow">Regula Fidei</A> in relation to <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura" REL="nofollow">Sola Scriptura</A> (an idea of this <A HREF="http://www.apuritansmind.com/Creeds/McMahonSolaScriptura.htm" REL="nofollow">confessional summary of the contents of Scripture</A>, which was so dear to Augustine).<BR/><BR/>If you are aware of another "established baseline" that ties the whole Church together, I'm interested in learning about it.<BR/><BR/>As for denominations, the ECUSA/TEC and the PCUSA seem to be ripping themselves apart in precisely this same way. In the PCUSA (my former cult), there was a time when the Westminster Standards held everyone together. I've <A HREF="http://grkndeacon.blogspot.com/2007/08/why-we-fight.html" REL="nofollow">written</A> about how dropping those led to increasing levels of distrust on both sides and set up a combative atmosphere that set them on a path to institutional disintegration.Chris Larimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01770607122746467750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30216641.post-35794444060981667192008-07-09T22:56:00.000-04:002008-07-09T22:56:00.000-04:00There are other churches besides catholic orthodox...There are other churches besides catholic orthodoxy that have an established baseline. <BR/><BR/>I agree with your last two sentences. Do you know of any denominations that this could be happening to?Rae-Raehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10689602117000934898noreply@blogger.com